Is your church healthy—or just busy?

What if Sunday attendance wasn’t the only way to measure church health? In this episode, Elevate host Aaron Bryant sits down with Fady Al-Hagal to unpack how healthy churches multiply disciples, not just programs. Drawing from years of ministry and regional church partnerships, they offer a fresh framework for evaluating success, leading with the Spirit, and building a church culture that actually sends people out.

You’ll learn the Five Gs of healthy disciple-making, discover how to shepherd staff toward spiritual vitality, and gain simple questions to reorient your team around a movement—not just a meeting.

Episode Guests:

• Aaron Bryant: Campus & Teaching Pastor, The Church at Avenue South
• Fady Al-Hagal: Multiplication Minister, Brentwood Baptist Church

Timestamps:

• 00:00 – Why churches need new ways to measure health
• 03:00 – Movement vs. activity: What really grows disciples
• 08:00 – How the Holy Spirit leads ministry strategy
• 11:00 – Three steps to build a disciple-making culture
• 17:00 – Restoring spiritual health after ministry burnout
• 20:00 – Finding partners and learning from others
• 25:00 – Marks of a biblically healthy church
• 28:00 – How the Five Gs help measure spiritual growth
• 32:00 – Mobilizing your church beyond Sunday
• 35:00 – Questions to help your staff multiply disciples

Resources Mentioned:

• Brentwood Baptist’s Five Gs: Gather, Group, Give, Go, Gospel Conversations
• Acts 1:8 mission strategy
• Elevate Church Conference