On this episode of the Elevate Podcast, Travis Cottrell sits down with Mack Burns to explore the transformative power of relational leadership in worship ministry. They discuss the importance of knowing your congregation, creating authentic worship experiences, and leading with relational goals rather than musical ambition.

Meet the Speakers:

Travis Cottrell: Worship Minister at Brentwood Baptist, Travis brings decades of experience in worship leadership and songwriting, emphasizing relational connection with the congregation. Connect with Travis on Instagram.
Mack Burns: Worship Minister at the West Franklin campus, Mack shares insights from his diverse ministry journey, including serving in culturally and geographically distinct churches across the U.S.

Topics Discussed in This Episode:

3:15 – Why knowing your congregation is a “superpower” in worship leadership
8:00 – The value of consistency and presence amid leadership transitions
15:10 – Avoiding “Christianese” and communicating effectively with unchurched communities
19:00 – The role of authenticity and vulnerability in leading worship
27:05 – How to contextualize popular worship songs for your church’s unique DNA
36:30 – Breaking the comparison trap: Leading authentically in your local context

Elevate Conference | September 9, 2025

Learn how to lead well in any church context. Don’t miss this opportunity to grow alongside fellow church leaders and discover practical tools for effective ministry. Visit elevatechurchconference.com to register.

Whether you’re a seasoned leader or just beginning your ministry journey, this episode offers wisdom and encouragement to help you engage your congregation and create meaningful worship experiences.